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What
do you think?
Tredegar
Development Trust is seeking the views of Tredegar people about the
future of Number 10, The Circle. The proposal to save this historic
building has received the backing of a number of organisations and people,
including
Blaenau Gwent County Borough Council, Tredegar Town Council, Tredegar
Local History Society, Tredegar Archive Group, Tredegar Camera Club,
The Bevan Foundation, Lord and Lady Kinnock; the Medical History Forum
in Wales.
The
Trust is setting up a steering committee of Tredegar townspeople and
interested parties to decide the future of Number 10, The Circle, once
grant applications have been awarded. Below are some of the general
comments about the NHS, the Tredegar Medical Aid Society and Nye Bevan.
What
do you think should the building be used for?
Please write to the Trust at 40 Castle Street, Tredegar, Blaenau Gwent
NP22 3DQ or e-mail on tdt-office@btconnect.com.
Excerpts
from your letters and e-mails will appear on this page.
Quotes
about Nye, Tredegar, the Medical Aid Society and the National Health
Service:
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It
is absolutely incredible to think that a building of this significance
in British history could be allowed to become derelict. If this were
to happen it would show that we have lost all pride in what once made
the Valleys of south Wales great. It must be preserved as a museum
of both Aneurin Bevan and his creation - the National Health Service
- Martyn Vaughan, Newport
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The
idea of social solidarity was born with the miners', steelworkers'
and tinplate workers' medical aid schemes, covering entire local populations
and funded from poundage. These applied in practice the principle
"to all according to their need, from all according to their ability"
- need to receive care, ability to give it, and ability to pay for
it. This was not invented by Lloyd George, but nationalised by him,
a great social gain which also entailed much loss of what could have
been the beginnings of a democratic service. This was the background
to all Nye Bevan's thought, because this was the context of practical
solidarity within which he grew up: whether, or even how much, his
ideas about the NHS were influenced by his knowledge of the Tredegar
Medical Aid Society is therefore a rather silly question. No.10 The
Circle is consequently sacred territory, which must be conserved and
imaginatively developed as a very important cultural and educational
resource, not just for the south Wales valleys but for all Wales.
It should have urgent attention from the Assembly. Earlier this year,
at a BMA conference, NHS Wales was described by Simon Stevens (formerly
adviser on health to Prime Minister Blair, now director of the European
section of giant US company UnitedHealth) as the placebo control for
England's current experiment in fully marketed health care. Hopefully,
this view will not be shared by Labour in the Assembly, nor most of
the opposition. This will not be a comparison between an illusory
treatment on the one hand and a real treatment on the other, but a
struggle between two concepts of society - one based on motivation
by co-operative solidarity, the other on motivation by competition
for profit. Each view needs its own icons and history. Anyone seriously
committed to the NHS in Wales must help to ensure restoration of the
Tredegar Medical Aid Centre to a central role in this necessary process.-
Dr
Julian Tudor Hart, distinguished G. P. and author
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I
was pleased to read about the refurbishment of No 10 The Circle. It
is long overdue - but what now of its future? Options are being considered
and I'm sure that the selected ones will be chosen. I would like to
offer my suggestion. People of my generation (I was born in 1942)
know about the wonderful life and work of Aneurin Bevan but couldn't
we make the story of the birth of the NHS more romantic so that it
will grip the imagination of our children for generations to come?
In the words of Aneurin Bevan: Why don't we try for the contents of
No 10 "to reveal the unfolding of a multi-coloured panorama before
the eyes of every child every day". In order to achieve this, let's
take our story back further than Bevan's wonderful achievement in
Parliament. Let's go back to the birth of the Tredegar Medical Aid
Society. Youngsters might find more appealing the story of a few local
men who turned their dreams into reality. Dreams that would eventually,
not only change the life of a small mining town, but that of a nation.
What an example to set our children - to pursue their dreams, because
who knows where their dreams might eventually lead... (we need to
capture) the bright-eyed enthusiasm of young people for years to come,
so that they can fully understand the importance of No 10 The Circle.
- Ron James, Tredegar
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As
a 'Tredegar boy' who still lives in the town, I am rather excited
about the prospect of your news of developing 10, The Circle, a building
with huge potential, into a facility that serves the community in
which it is set. My vision for number 10, which fits neatly into one
of the suggestions on your website as a 'centre for developing strategies
for healthy living', would see it become a state of the art contact
centre for vulnerable adults. The ground floor would be used as a
drop in / contact centre for people who experience mental ill health.
Food could be prepared on site to ensure that visitors received a
healthy meal or snack.…. The building could also be used as a signposting
service where people would also be advised where to access other services
and / or sources of information. all under one roof….. I envisage
the first floor of the building with its array of separate rooms could
then be used to accommodate a range of agencies and services to meet
the holistic needs of the people who visit the contact centre… - Jonathan
Pearce, Supported Housing Co-ordinator, Abergavenny Mind Association
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I
feel that 10 The Circle should be preserved as a museum to The Medical
Aid Society, Aneurin Bevan and Walter Conway. These people were the
creators of The Medical Aid Society after the Query Fund was disbanded.
The idea that led to the formation of The NHS came from a small town
in its infancy and I don't think it should be forgotten. This museum
should also pay tribute to Lord Tredegar who donated the land for
Tredegar General Hospital, Mr Whitehead of the works, who helped the
funds to equip the hospital, Dr Davies who was the Chief Medical Officer
and indeed the workmen of Tredegar. Without all these things there
would have been no Medical Aid and no National Health Service. Let
us not forget that this comes from Tredegar and should be kept as
such. I sincerely hope this mail meets with your approval because
I think it is one claim to fame that should not leave Tredegar
- Brian Turner, Tredegar
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Nye
Bevan was an important figure in the history of the UK and I fully
support this effort to educate people about his role in setting up
the NHS - David Davies Conservative MP for Monmouthshire
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Thanks
very much for letting me know about this exciting venture. I am
delighted to hear about your fine work to capture a tangible memory
of the pioneering days of socialism. Millions of lives have been
touched by the NHS here and its imitators in other countries. I
remember the generosity of a family doctor when I was a young child
before we had an NHS. Knowing that my widowed mother could not afford
the half-a-crown charge for his visit, he took the coin then rolled
it along the floor back to my brother and myself for us to catch.
Without that, the family could not have afforded the cost of his
-perhaps vital- visit. The debt of gratitude we owe to the brave
original comradeship of the people of Tredegar is immense. - Paul
Flynn, MP for Newport West
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I
am pleased to offer my support for the funding application being made
by the Tredegar Development Trust to preserve the offices of the former
Tredegar Workmen's Medical Aid Society which provided Aneurin Bevan
with the model for the NHS. The Trust is working towards preserving
this building of historic importance for the benefit of the local
community. - Mike German, Leader, Welsh Liberal Democrats in the
National Assembly
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The Society was an excellent and important example of the principle
of mutuality, where organisations are created and managed in order
to serve the interests of their members in the delivery of many services
to which they could not otherwise gain access. In the 19th century
we saw this model used extensively in the provision of building societies
and insurance companies for working people. Some of these later became
some of the most significant financial institutions in Britain. The
Tredegar Medical Aid Society was undoubtedly the most important example
of the use of this mutuality principle in the provision of medical
services, and ... strongly influenced Aneurin Bevan in the discussions
leading to the creation of the NHS. Mutuality still has an important
role today in the 21st century. Many of the leading banks, building
societies and insurance companies in Europe are mutual societies owned
by their savers and policy-holders... As these organisations are actually
owned by their members, their standards of care towards their customers
set the standard for the rest of the business world. I lead a group
of cross-party MEPs from across Europe who are keen to maintain this
principle of mutuality and extend it more widely. While I have noted
and understand the reasoning for devoting considerable attention to
the Bevan connection and the Labour Party history, there is in my
view a wider international significance in also linking the history
of the Tredegar Medical Aid Society to the history of mutuality in
Europe, which continues to play such an important role in the structure
of service organisations and which I hope will not be over-looked
by your group - Tredegar-born Jonathan Evans, MEP Conservative
MEP, whose grandfather, a councillor, was a Medical Aid Society member
and served on the committee.
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I'm
interested in the work you intend to carry out in No 10...The support
of Plaid Cymru Assembly member, the late Dr Phil Williams, is also
encouraging. I, like he, am committed to community-based, grass
roots projects... where the local community comes together in a
bid to identify and address problems which are prevalent in its
surroundings. As someone with a keen interest in understanding Wales'
past as a basis for future development, I'm also particularly interested
in historical archives which may present opportunities for those
wishing to study Tredegar's heritage and which provide a focus for
the community's sense of identity - Dr Dafydd Trystan, Chief
Executive, Plaid Cymru, the Party of Wales.
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10
The Circle is a jewel in the social history of Britain, the late
Dr Phil Williams told the Trust's Director. Dr Williams was
among the first to suggest that Tredegar Development Trust should
lead a campaign to save the building
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I
have lived and worked in the South Wales Valleys all my life and
count Nye Bevan as my political hero and was therefore thrilled
to learn about these plans. I feel that they are an excellent way
to preserve our unique heritage and a fitting tribute to the creator
of our NHS and the countless working people who played such a valuable
part in our movement - Paul Murphy, MP for Torfaen and former
Secretary of State for Wales
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I am so pleased to hear of plans and hopefully adequate funding to
safeguard the future of No 10, The Circle. I am a native of Tredegar
but have lived in Edinburgh for the last 38 years.... and feel it's
so important to preserve the offices of the Medical Aid Society (of
which my father was a member) which was so important in becoming a
role model for the NHS. I would like to see it being used as an active
centre for the development of healthy living while also incorporating
a small museum of the history for any visitors... - Judith Young,
Edinburgh
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This
place was revolutionary and we should value our history and let
it stand to inspire future generations or else nothing will ever
change.... Everything Must Go was partly inspired by Aneurin Bevan
and his voice and his vision and his attitude.......... - Tredegar-born
Patrick Jones, poet, Blackwood
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What
a wonderful idea to preserve our heritage! We should be proud that
a man like Aneurin Bevan took the initiative from these humble beginnings
to form the basis of the NHS... It is important to inform current
and future generations about the importance of this building and renovating
it and preserving it should be of utmost importance. A museum dedicated
to explaining how the Medical Aid Society worked and how Aneurin Bevan
took inspiration to form the NHS should be an inspiration to us all
- N Mathers, Tredegar
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A
letter of support has been received from a 'former valley dweller'
who 'might make a small contribution' towards a scheme to restore
10 The Circle. "I am particularly interested to hear if you will
be turning it into a museum or other public facility and if the Tredegar
Workmen's (Medical Aid Society's) history will be included in that"
- E Ramsay, Canada
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''Aneurin
Bevan, inspired by the egalitarian principles on which the Tredegar
Working Men's Medical Aid Society had been based, applied socialist
zeal and Welsh determination to create the National Health Service
in 1948, the most far-reaching piece of social legislation in British
history'' - Medical History Forum who feel that the History
of Medicine, particularly Welsh Medicine, deserves a higher profile
than it currently enjoys
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Tredegar
was "the cradle of the NHS" said Dr Brian Gibbons,
the Health Minister for the Wales Assembly, in May 2005 during the
launch at Tredegar of Designed For Life, a 10-year plan to
create a world-class health and social care system in Wales by shifting
the focus from tackling illness towards preventing disease. He told
of visiting the town 30 years ago as a tourist because of his interest
in the NHS and a wish to see where it had all started.
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"All
too often we preserve memorials to great princes or tycoons of industry,
but Aneurin Bevan's life is a story of the working people in these
valleys. Our heritage of buildings such as miners' institutes.............
tell the tale of the solidarity of working people in the face of tremendous
adversity, and the Tredegar Medical Aid Society was a pioneering example
of how people achieve more together than they do alone"
- Don
Touhig, MP for Islwyn
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"I
am delighted as a Member of Parliament and National Assembly Member
to welcome this important development and initiative of the Tredegar
Development Trust in commissioning a website particularly relating
to the important work of the former Tredegar Medical Aid Society throughout
Tredegar and the whole of Blaenau Gwent. We are particularly proud
of the important part that Tredegar Medical Aid Society played in
the mind of Aneurin Bevan when he designed the National Health Service
- a great legacy that he left to us which of course is the envy of
the world and from which we all benefit today over 50 years on. I
can think of no better place for an archive to celebrate the major
contribution to the world of the greatest son of Blaenau Gwent and
it is particularly fortuitous that it links in to the local strategy
for healthy living." - the late Peter Law, MP for Blaenau
Gwent, and Assembly Member
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"Thank
you for your e-mail ... about your plans to preserve and refurbish
the offices of the former Tredegar Medical Aid Society at 10, The
Circle, Tredegar. I was most interested to read about your proposals
and certainly agree that such a use would
be a fitting tribute to the work of that pioneering society, the people
of Tredegar and Nye Bevan himself
- Peter
Hain MP, Secretary of State for Wales
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